Is it possible to obtain two higher education degrees? Second higher education in Russia - how to get it for free

Many citizens who want to improve their competence are wondering whether it is possible to get a second higher education for free.

In this article we will look at the circumstances in which this is permissible.

Is it possible to get a second higher education for free according to the law?

From the standpoint of state guarantees, authorities are not obliged to provide citizens with the opportunity for free higher education.

Along with this, upon receipt of the first one, it is permissible to go to the budget.

As for the second, in most cases we are talking about paid knowledge.

The following categories of citizens are exceptions:

  • military personnel who have received the appropriate first education;
  • graduates of creative universities, for example, GITIS or GNESINK.

The above groups may qualify for free admission. There are also beneficiaries who receive special discounts. These include combatants, as well as, in some specialties, holders of honors diplomas.

How to get a second higher education for free without benefits

Not everyone who wants to study for free has the corresponding privileges. Despite this, it is also possible for them to save money and still achieve their goal. Let's consider several ways.

Obtaining a second higher education at the expense of an employer or receiving a grant

In some cases, employers are interested in their employees receiving additional education.

For example, if a person has performed well and can be promoted, but for this it is necessary that he have certain qualifications.

The peculiarity of this format is that a special agreement is concluded, within which the number of years to be worked after completion of studies is stipulated.

If a student is expelled or leaves the university of his own free will, the employee is obliged to fully reimburse the money spent by management. This option is more common in a corporate environment.

Getting a grant is another option, but to take advantage of it, you need to prove to sponsors that a particular person is worth a chance. Funds prefer to invest in promising young people with unique knowledge or skills.

The second education is free on the basis of the first higher education

Conventionally, the second education is called a master's degree.

This formulation is not entirely correct, since it is simply more high level first higher.

For most programs in state universities Admission to a master's program on a budget is acceptable.

How to enroll in a master's program is described on the website of each specific institution.

The second higher education is free if the first one is paid

A citizen of Russia has the right to win a competition for state-funded education once.

That is, if a person studied for a fee for the first time, then he can apply for a new budget place at another university.

However, he will be admitted under general conditions, that is, along with other applicants.

The same rule applies to those who study part-time.

Distance free higher education

Under certain life circumstances, girls and boys think about the possibility distance learning. Modern technologies provide such an opportunity.

This is not yet possible for all specialties, but many professions can be learned via the Internet.

It is not yet possible to obtain free higher education and a university diploma.

Universities are ready to provide online courses, but not free. This form is paid for via bank transfer.

Free military education as a second higher education

To receive military education as a higher education, you must be a contract soldier and submit an application to study at the chosen university.

At the same time, such the person must already have a civil education at the bachelor's or specialist level. To determine where to get military education, it is worth purchasing a directory of educational institutions.

other methods

If none of the options work, then you can try to cheat a little.

Two methods are common:

  • concealing information about the availability of first studies and submitting a standard package of applicant documents;
  • simultaneous study at several universities, for example, full-time and evening.

If the second scheme is widespread, then the first one may reveal itself, and the consequences will not be the most favorable. For example, in Moscow and other major cities a common database already exists.

It is acceptable to receive a second education for free, that is, on a budget basis. On the one hand, this is easier to do for those who have a number of privileges. On the other hand, if the student himself wishes, one can always find a way to do this. It is up to the individual to choose whether to receive an education, paid or not.

According to Russian legislation, citizens of our country have the right to receive higher education once at the expense of budgetary allocations. On a paid basis, the number of higher education obtained is not limited. Therefore, if you decide to get two higher educations at the same time, know that one of them can be provided to you for free. For the second you will have to pay - calculate your financial capabilities

Option 1: after receiving Unified State Exam results enroll full-time in two faculties at once, either in the same university or in different ones. But there are difficulties here. Firstly, it is unlikely that you will be able to attend all classes and, most likely, you will have problems passing the session. Secondly, you will graduate in one year. Write one diploma for many difficult task, and here there are two at once. Therefore, it is better to use option two.

Option 2: enroll simultaneously full-time and part-time. This way you will practically eliminate difficulties with attendance. You will definitely finish your studies in more than one year, because... Bachelors study by correspondence for a year longer. And in principle, the load will not be so strong.

Option 3: As a rule, the first year of study at a university is seriously stressful for students. We have to get used to the new environment and rules. Therefore, some students advise completing their first year at one faculty, adapting to student life, and enrolling in another major the following year.

After finishing the first year, I decided to somehow use my numerous results and enrolled in a management correspondence course; the points were enough for the budget. There were no problems with arrival. Since my certificate is at the university, I simply made a certified copy of it and took it to the admissions office. I don't regret it. The correspondence session takes place during the semester at the main place of study, and students have to take a fair amount of time off work for 2-3 weeks. However general subjects, like philosophy, BJD and foreign languages can be re-credited if they have already been passed. Because of this, the volume of the session can be greatly reduced,” says UrFU student Pavel Karpov.

Option 4: You can ask if the university has dual degree programs. For example, UrFU offers to receive two bachelor's degrees in economics after four years of study - UrFU and the National Research University Higher School of Economics. First the student for three years studies at UrFU, and last year at the National Research University Higher School of Economics.

It is believed that a second higher education in our country can only be obtained for money. But some savvy students manage to get several real, not fake, diplomas - and completely free of charge.


ANNA VASILYEVA


Master of Other Sciences


You can get a state diploma of higher education for free, already having one in your pocket, in several legal ways (many, sadly, take the illegal route, but more on that later).

The most obvious way is a master's degree. Students who have received a specialist or bachelor's degree can go to any other university for a master's degree. On the websites of absolutely all universities and institutes that have a master’s department, it is emphasized that a master’s degree is an opportunity to obtain a second higher education for free. “Applicants who have received higher education and have a bachelor’s or specialist’s degree can apply for places financed from the federal budget,” says, for example, on the website of the Russian University of Economics them. G. V. Plekhanov. At the same time, it is clarified that when entering a master’s program, you can choose any direction of training, regardless of the profile of your first higher education. “The opportunity to change the direction of study and master a new specialty is one of the key advantages of the “4+2” system (bachelor’s degree + master’s degree),” the Higher School of Economics emphasizes.

This path is good from all points of view, including the fact that enrolling in a master's program at some universities can be easier than enrolling in the same university as a first-year student.

"I dreamed of entering High school economics from school,” says 24-year-old Ruslan Pekhov. “But I knew for sure that I couldn’t get into the free department, the requirements were too high and the competition was big. And then I went to MIIT, received a bachelor’s degree there, and with it I already entered the master’s program at the Higher School of Economics. The entrance exams are much easier and the competition is minimal."

Despite the fact that you only need to study for a master's degree for two years, students who decide to radically change direction during their studies actually receive two full-fledged professions. “I studied for four years at the Institute of Asian and African Studies at Moscow State University,” says 25-year-old Nastya Mironova. “I learned Japanese well, received a bachelor’s degree. However, then I realized that knowing the language is not yet a profession, it will be difficult to find a job. So I decided "that I will receive a master's degree at the Faculty of Journalism of Moscow State University. I passed the documents, passed the competition, received a budget place and two years later - a second diploma of higher education. Now I work as a special correspondent in Japan and am quite pleased with the start of my career."

But what should those who have already become a master do, but still want to study?

At someone else's expense


Then there is only one legal way left - grants. Compared to the West, in Russia the topic of grants does not seem very relevant, however, if you have the desire and ability, education with their help can be obtained not only in Russia, but also abroad. There are actually quite a lot of public organizations that provide such grants; you just have to set out to find them. There is, for example, the Ford Foundation, which annually announces a competition for a grant for master’s or postgraduate studies at any university in the world, including Russian ones. There is the German Academic Exchange Service (DAAD), thanks to which grants for a second higher education can be obtained in more than 2 thousand specialties, and the training will not necessarily take place in German.

This year the British Council in Russia revived the well-known scholarship program Chevening, which provides young professionals not only with free education at any selected UK university for 12 months, but also with residence in this country. In addition to the opportunity to take a training course, the program provides sponsorship of specialists working on short-term research projects. Applicants are required to have a high level of proficiency English language, higher education diploma with excellent and good grades, as well as at least two years of work experience in the chosen specialty. Particular emphasis is placed on the intention of the scholarship applicant to continue working in Russia.

The foreign ministries of all countries with which Russia has established diplomatic relations are trying to allocate similar grants. Therefore, in essence, you should choose a country, go to the website of its embassy and carefully study the section describing cooperation in the field of education. Thus, the website of the French Embassy published a list of programs for which grants are issued, and it seems that they reflect the entire spectrum of human activity. There is a Copernicus program, which is designed for young economists, lawyers and engineers, scholarships intended for Russian students who wish to continue their studies within the second cycle (master), grants for university graduates who would like to enroll in public service, and much more.

Most of these grants assume that upon completion of training, specialists will be issued diplomas that are equivalent to official documents confirming higher education.

Without a diploma, but with knowledge of the matter


It has long been clear to everyone that having a diploma does not always indicate knowledge. Therefore, it often occurs to those who want to improve their level of education that it is much more logical to choose some advanced training courses or acquire new skills not related to your profession. The number of paid offers in this area generally breaks all records, but it’s worth working hard to find free options.

The Strelka Institute of Media, Architecture and Design, founded in 2009, looks unique here. The institute's goal is to "educate a new generation of architects, designers and media specialists who will shape the shape of the world in the 21st century."

The creators of the project call the institute a postgraduate program, which is intended for graduates of higher educational institutions - young professionals. "The program provides the opportunity to work with the authors of brilliant projects in the field of urbanism, architecture and communications from different countries world - an experience invaluable for everyone young specialist“says Alexander Ostrogorsky, director of communications at the Strelka Institute.

“It is still impossible to perceive studying at our institute as an ordinary second higher education. The educational program is designed for a year, during which students work on projects, the ideas of which are related to some global and Russian issues, such as the future of energy or conservation historical heritage. After training, students receive certificates, but we do not issue state diplomas either according to the Russian or Western systems,” Ostrogorsky noted.

At the same time, getting into Strelka is no easier than getting into any Western university. Upon admission, students must submit a portfolio, explain why this education is important to them, and undergo a serious competitive selection: 12 candidates applied for a place last year. Upon admission, all students are provided with a scholarship and, if necessary, accommodation.

The training is absolutely free. "Yes, we have summer schools for everyone, where some workshops are paid. But for our students the entire course of study is absolutely free,” Ostrogorsky clarifies.

According to him, not only those children who have already received an architectural or design education can enter the institute. “Our main task is to find ways to solve problems that are important for Russia and the whole world. Therefore, if not an architect, but, for example, a physicist comes to us and says that he dreams of using innovative approaches in the field of energy, we will only be happy,” Ostrogorsky emphasized.

However, in his opinion, for those who want to combine study with work, this is not the best option. “The training schedule is very tight. During the year, students will have to master an extensive program, which consists of lectures, events and educational trips. Therefore, we are against combining training with serious work, and this is unlikely to happen,” says Ostrogorsky.

If the task is to combine education with a work schedule, you can try to force your employer to pay for your education. Some companies provide on-the-job training to their employees. This is called a corporate university. For example, Beeline, Severstal, Ingosstrakh, Rostelecom, Wimm-Bill-Dann, McDonald's, Coca-Cola and many others have these. These institutions are good because they give students practical knowledge in a narrow specialty without interruption from production. As a rule, teachers are invited from leading business schools and large companies, and the learning process is based on completing business tasks.

hope for the best


It is possible that in the future it will be easier to study for free at a university a second time. In any case, discussions on this topic are ongoing among legislators. In 2008, a bill was introduced to the State Duma in which deputies proposed to allow free second higher education in some specialties in the field of culture and art. In particular, it was intended to give the opportunity to study for free once again for those people who wanted to choose as a second profession such areas as theater directing, film and television directing, composition, conducting and some others. However, the number did not go through.

“Then the Ministry of Finance simply felt sorry for the money,” believes one of the authors of the bill, deputy from the A Just Russia party Elena Drapeko. “Of course, they explained this to us with a more noble reason: if we were to allow free second higher education, then it would be for everyone.” However, she is confident that all is not lost and intends to reintroduce the bill in the near future. “Many years of experience objectively show that in some professions, for example in the profession of a director or conductor, success was achieved only by those who entered these professions at the age of 23-25. A conductor is a second education by definition, since a person must at least get a musical education and become, for example, an excellent violinist,” the deputy noted.

She tells a revealing story about a young man who, while studying at the theater department, discovered a rare talent as an animated film director. “Tell me, how many directors of animated films do we have? Yes, almost none! But the guy is really talented. And everyone recognizes it. The teachers are happy to train him again for free in a new specialty, but this is not required by law. So we have to collect money from sponsors,” says Drapeko. “We are trying to find money for talented guys. But such grants are few, and not everyone who wants and deserves it manages to get them.”

“And besides, there is no system in this,” the deputy continues. “This is some kind of manual control. We must finally admit that there are specialties that only adults need to learn.”

Bypassing the law


In the meantime, the bill is waiting in the wings, cunning students are solving the problem of the second higher education in their own way. According to the federal law “On Higher and Postgraduate Professional Education,” every citizen of Russia has the right to receive free professional education on a competitive basis and only if he receives education at this level for the first time. However, the law does not provide for liability for obtaining a second higher education free of charge. There is also no provision for checking data on whether an applicant has completed professional education. And some people take advantage of this. As is known, the applicant is required to submit admissions committee identity document, citizenship, state document on education and photographs. That is, in theory, you need to present a diploma of higher professional education, if you have one. Moreover, each applicant signs that he is receiving higher professional education for the first time.

“The legislation does not provide for liability for providing false information or failure to provide certain documents when entering a university,” says Maria Smirnova, a specialist at the Federal Center for Educational Legislation. “And judicial practice on the application of Part 3 of Article 327 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation to such cases on the provision of knowingly forged documents have not yet been formed." In theory, liability in the form of expulsion from a university can be enshrined in the university’s charter, but this also practically never happens.

Hello reader! If you have looked at this page, then you, like me, are interested in the question of how to get a second higher education? Well, it’s a worthy goal, all that remains is to figure out exactly how to achieve it.

Second higher education: is it necessary?

First of all, I would like to remember that not so long ago a huge number of disputes and rumors appeared that very soon the Ministry of Education will simply deprive students of the opportunity to obtain a second higher education, and the well-known Bologna system will only contribute to this. However, despite all these speculations, this type of education still remains in demand and relevant.

The most surprising thing is that the proposed training system has a lot of advantages, and among the disadvantages we can only highlight additional financial costs. Remembering my student life, I greatly regret that I did not continue my studies at one time, because this is a unique chance, upon leaving the university, to become not only a qualified, but also a comprehensive specialist. Accordingly, the demand for such a graduate on the labor exchange is rapidly increasing.

And yet, as statistics show, many graduates are in no hurry to get a higher education again, dreaming of at least a little break from textbooks and endless exams. Not many people think about resuming a couple of years later. educational process, however, sometimes work obliges, and unfulfilled desires also remind of themselves with slight nostalgia. So people between the ages of 28 and 40 become repeat students and come to this decision quite consciously.

Positive aspects of a second higher education

When I was still a student, I considered higher education an unnecessary pathos in a portfolio, but several years later I came to appreciate its necessity. This is exactly what I want to tell you about, maybe my colossal experience will be useful to someone.

1. Obtaining a second higher education does not take five years of your life, but a maximum of 3.5 years, and this time does not necessarily have to be spent at your desk every day; it is enough to simply show up for the next session. However, in this case, of course, you will have to personally negotiate with the teachers, explaining all your need and employment at your main job.

2. A second higher education allows you to become a multidisciplinary specialist; the main thing is to make the right choice, and not become just a “polyglot” in your life.

3. Workers with two “towers” ​​are always at a premium; accordingly, their wages are calculated at an increased rate. In addition, the head of a particular enterprise is unlikely to “throw away” such valuable employees. So you don’t have to worry about unemployment, and your income will be above average.

4. Obtaining a second higher education ensures rapid career growth or advancement along the so-called “trade union ladder.” Simply put, such qualified specialists rarely remain “in the shadows”.

5. In any case, advanced training in life certainly won’t hurt; moreover, it will noticeably increase self-esteem, teach communication skills and demonstrate the comprehensive development of the now former graduate.

As for the disadvantages of this form of training, there are only two. Firstly, a second higher education former student can get exclusively on a paid basis, that is, the state, alas, does not finance such good intentions. Secondly, to resume studying you will have to find a window in your busy daily routine, which is very difficult for busy and accomplished individuals. However, if desired, such “BUTs” can always be resolved, because, as we know, “the end justifies the means.”

The right choice

If, nevertheless, the desire to obtain a second higher education is final and irrevocable, then it is important to be able to make the right choice.

What is meant in this situation?

When a tanker, for example, dreams of becoming a free artist, then we can safely say that his life was in vain. The fact is that you need to develop your main specialty, and not “bury” it, since such career experiments will certainly not end in success, prosperity and universal recognition. Well, an engineer cannot become a teacher of Russian literature, and an athlete cannot become a medical worker, and such combinations simply lose the significance of the first higher education.

So, if the first education was engineering and physics, then the second can become economic. If a graduate is a biologist by profession, then nothing will prevent him from improving his knowledge and becoming a ecologist. But a qualified physician certainly wouldn’t mind having a second higher education diploma marked “Psychologist.”

As for lawyers, it will not be at all difficult for them to retrain as economists, and for philologists - as journalists. A mathematician, for example, can master the specialty of a financier, and a teacher can become a translator.

So now it becomes clear to everyone by what criteria the choice of specialty for obtaining a second higher education should be assessed. It is important not to realize your unfulfilled childhood dreams, but to establish yourself and significantly expand your horizons in an already mastered field of work.

Common questions from potential applicants

As you know, established adults receive a second higher education, so it is important to approach this issue with maximum responsibility. First of all, find out the price of such pleasure, and only then, based on financial capabilities, decide on the choice of a faculty closer to your main specialty.

So, it is impossible to get a second higher education for free, even if the first one was provided on a contract basis. However, the cost of training is significantly lower than the first time. Some people, in order to save money, prefer a master's degree to the second "tower", which is an economically beneficial compromise. However, this form of education, alas, does not provide the desired “crust”, operating within the framework of the first higher education.

Every graduate should understand the following pattern: The more different the acquired and future specialty is, the longer it will take to study. However, in general, it takes only three years to achieve this goal - no more.

As for the place of obtaining a second higher education, there are no problems here. Almost all universities in the Russian Federation provide such a unique and in-demand opportunity today, so you don’t have to travel to another city or capital.

I used to be sure that all you need is money, and any university will accept you as a student with open arms. However, it turned out that even with re-admission There are some nuances that are useful to know about.

1. You need to finally decide on your future specialty, and then go to the dean’s office and find out the duration of study, the cost of one semester and other nuances. Only if everything is satisfactory, you can begin collecting documents, which will subsequently be submitted for consideration by the admissions committee.

2. After this, you should not relax, because an applicant is not a student at all, but an exam or testing separates these two statuses. It should be clarified that even when receiving a second higher education are required entrance exams But whether these are tests, written answers to questions, an interview or a dictation is decided by the leadership of each university individually.

3. You must appear for the exam at the specified time, and after writing it, you can consider yourself enrolled in the ranks of students. As a rule, the exam is just a formality, and everyone who wants to continue their studies is enrolled in a new course.

4. After the long-awaited enrollment, all that remains is to conclude a contract for the specified number of years and be required to pay the cost of the first semester. Submit the received receipt to the dean's office, and then wait for the start of classes.

Organization of the educational process

As a rule, the learning process takes place during the day and evening on certain days of the week, and less often on weekends. The class schedule is chosen on an individual basis, so if you are busy at your main job, you can always come to an agreement with the teachers.

All students are combined into one group, since there are not so many people willing to undergo repeated training. If it gets too big large group, then according to the list it is divided into two subgroups, each of which has an individual educational process.

If a student is too busy a person, then he can always get a second higher education at by correspondence training or externally. The duration of training also varies and depends on the desired level of qualifications and regularity of visiting the university.

The second higher education, just like the first, prepares future bachelors and specialists, so this issue When concluding a contract after admission, you should definitely make your final decision.

Conclusion: To summarize, we can conclude that an additional “crust” is a unique opportunity to achieve great success in your career and not consider yourself an ordinary person. However, it is necessary to receive it not for the sake of “sweet words”, but for the further implementation of the set goal.

As they say: “It’s never too late to learn,” so maybe it’s time to gain new knowledge and significantly expand your own horizons, and not play the role of a “copier”, doing the same monotonous work day after day? Moreover, it is now known how to get a second higher education.

We wish you success!

P.S. It is interesting to know what specialty you have in your first higher education, and who you are going to study for in your second higher education. Share with us below in the comments.

The need for education is undeniable. It is the key to success and career growth. High competition in the labor market forces young specialists (and not only) to acquire additional knowledge in related professional fields. Yesterday's graduates educational institutions and experienced specialists want to get a second higher education. “How long to study?” - a question that worries each of them.

Who gets a second higher education and why?

There are many reasons why people pursue a second degree. This is either a banal habit of studying, or a necessity of life, or simply because there is nothing to do (“let it be”). If we look at the statistics, 61% of students receiving a second higher education are working specialists. What prompted them to do this was the desire to climb the career ladder. Indeed, often to build a successful career you need to have knowledge in related areas of work. The remaining 39% include those who do not like their first profession, who work outside their specialty, who hope for a salary increase, etc. For example, an accountant can get a second degree Teacher Education, realizing that numbers are not his calling, or wanting to make a childhood dream come true. People strive to radically change their lives thanks to a second diploma.

Which form of training is best to choose?

You can choose any: full-time, part-time, evening or part-time. It all depends on the intended goals and capabilities of the person. Most often, full-time students are those who do not yet have any work experience. Evening uniform means studying three to four days a week. Class times are usually from six to nine. During combined training, classes are held as in daytime, and in the evening. The most attractive form of obtaining a higher education diploma is by correspondence.

Many people who want to get a diploma cannot attend classes for various reasons: for health reasons, because of the territorial location of the university, etc. This problem can be solved by receiving a second higher education remotely.

Requirements of higher educational institutions

There are no age restrictions for applicants to study. At any age you can get a second higher education. How much to study will depend on many criteria, including how much the first specialty and the second, desired, differ from each other.

The basis for enrollment is a diploma of first higher education. It is worth noting that some universities set restrictions. They only accept students who have graduated from state or accredited commercial universities.

As for the duration of training, with a complete retraining, due to the large number of special subjects, it can be increased.

Upon admission, an agreement is concluded with the educational institution, which specifies the terms, conditions of study, a list of subjects studied and payment terms.

The main difficulty is the training schedule, because most often people receiving a second higher education already work somewhere. For such students, sometimes there is an opportunity to study individual plans. But most often educational institutions adhere to standard programs.

Second higher education: how long to study?

Citizens who already have one diploma can be enrolled in both the first and subsequent courses. At the same time, the university independently decides how many tests and in what form an applicant who wants to receive a second higher education will take.

How much to study mainly depends on the specialty obtained during the first training. If the content academic disciplines is radically different, the training period can reach five years.

Also, training at a university can be carried out on a reduced basis. educational programs. This decision is made educational part and depends on what subjects and to what extent the person has previously completed. In this case, the duration of the program cannot be less than 1.5 years.

In what cases does the period of obtaining education increase?

The duration of study can be extended by a year in two cases. Firstly, when developing an individual curriculum for combined and correspondence forms.

Secondly, by provision It can be provided in the presence of medical indications or in other exceptional cases.

How can you reduce the training period?

When calculating the duration of training, the disciplines already studied and passed during the first education are taken into account. This process is called re-offset. It includes the recognition and inclusion in the new academic list of previously obtained grades.

In addition, the possibility of reducing the duration of study depends on the student’s abilities. There is a possibility early delivery exams. According to the rules, such consent can be given by specific educational institution. To do this, you need to write an application addressed to the rector, after which an individual syllabus will be changed.

Distance higher education

A second higher education, distance education, implies a traditional form of education, but at a distance. That is, as when entering a regular institute, you can choose both full-time, correspondence, and combined forms of study.

It runs throughout the semester. Most often, enrollment is carried out twice a year: before the start of the next semester. But there are also universities that are not tied to the semester.

The most popular directions for obtaining a second higher education

Currently, among many areas, the most popular are law, pedagogy and economics. According to demand there are quite a large number of proposals.

For example, most applicants strive to obtain a second degree. This is due to the fact that everyday life confronts us with problems in which knowledge of rights and laws would simplify their solution. Therefore, the number of institutions producing certified lawyers is increasing every year.

The second higher education has never lost its popularity, and against the backdrop of emerging prospects it has become even more in demand. Everyone can choose a different profile at their own discretion.

A second higher education in Moscow was rare even less than ten years ago. Today, according to statistics, 20% of specialists have already received a second diploma, and 6% are on the way to defending it. This once again speaks of the desire of our citizens to develop and move forward.